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Just purchased a puppy through this site I think I've been scammed
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 555 msg #61	IP: Logged 12:54:02 AM 7/19/2006
	Hmmm, her ad for bulldogs is quite rude and her typo's abound....Pretty arrogant! I wouldnt wanna deal with this broad! she sounds like a *class act* to me....pfffft Attention...... Please read before contacting me about a puppy. The prices of my pups are not negotiable , so dont ask. I feel trying to negotiate price is rude and distasteful and it says alot about you. If you negotiate price of a puppy then you will negotiate on the care of the puppy. That is a guaranteed way to be blacklisted by me. We pay $8,000-$10,000 for each of our import bulldogs. They are from an exclusive italian bloodline that only a select handfull of people own. We put alot of personal time and energy into caring for and raising our dogs. We allow visits to our home from serious inquirers. If you are interested in setting up an appoinment, you can contact me. If you just want to window shop, please, admire the pups on the website. We are not a zoo to visit for the day. Our dogs are pets and live with us in our home. We do not have kennel "facilities",nor are we a puppy farm. By allowing just anyone to come over is endangering the health of our dogs, and the privacy and safety of our family. People can bring in all types of disease and viruses on the soles of their shoes. If you have investigated, researched & read our DIFFERENCE page and see a pup on the website you are interested in then i will be glad to show you our dogs. Do not email me 1000 questions. I have a phone # you can reach me at. You will have more questions come up as we talk and it is much easier for me to talk with you over the phone so that i can address each question that you have. This will also allow me to interview you and make sure you can provide an excellant home for one of our puppies. I do not place our pups with just anyone. I have tons of references upon request. I do not play games with procrastinators. There are alot of cheap,poor quality bulldogs out there. They are not the same quality as our dogs. You get what you pay for. You may only pay $1,000 for an Akc bulldog but that is your downpayment on the dog. You will end up paying thousands more on surgeries and mainentance on the Akc bulldogs. Good luck to you. I wanna drop her a line. xoxox Donna ***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 7/19/2006 12:55:38 AM*** Reason: add
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 556 msg #62	IP: Logged 1:16:58 AM 7/19/2006
	Rzda, Dont be mad!! lol... I sent this...(and I do have numbers and an email from my contact to the USDA office which I think you should call..she reeks of puppy mill!) My email is racknmare@yahoo.com and here is what I sent her..... I think your site is awful..it comes off cocky and arrogant, cutting down any other breeders other than yourself. As an owner of a bull terrier, we have a mentor in Michigan who has taught us so much and opens his doors to anyone who wants to learn. I think you are overpriced as well, and altho you praise an Italian bloodline, I found little history about it to warrant paying 4g for a puppy. The part that upsets me most, other than your typo's, is the fact that you sell these supposed jack russell pups, and one is shown PEEING! (how professional is that!!??!!) Fact is, someone I know got one of these pups and it wasn't a pure bred jack. You're ethical, alright. I believe you broke the law and committed fraud. As it was done to me, I have a soft spot for a fellow pet owner who gets scammed and I intend to pass on phone numbers (USDA and Texas humane society as you just so happen to be in the same are as my unscrupulous breeder) and my contacts to this dear lady and make sure that you will think twice before doing this again! Feel free to contact me, if you wish! Have a great day!
dltobin Full Member joined: 5/10/2006 posts: 272 msg #63	IP: Logged 1:22:03 AM 7/19/2006
	Donna I am with you. I felt the same as I read it. Here is the thing I really noticed: In the pic on TP site there are three pics.... her dog (supposed) in the middle totally a different look as far as camera...floor etc.....it kinda remi8nds me of those awwww to cute photos The bulldog site......sells nothing but bulldogs...and the contact name is different........ I think this is a cut and paste job...... Dee
dltobin Full Member joined: 5/10/2006 posts: 273 msg #64	IP: Logged 1:25:00 AM 7/19/2006
	Lol just read what you did Rocky (my Min Pin) says: Woof woof woofie meaning....you go girl! Dee
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 557 msg #65	IP: Logged 1:30:14 AM 7/19/2006
	wooo hoo!!! BTW, good call on the different floors....I missed that! You outta be a detective! xooxo Donna
dltobin Full Member joined: 5/10/2006 posts: 274 msg #66	IP: Logged 1:35:19 AM 7/19/2006
	hey sweetie waaayyyyy to much CSI that is all that is LOL I bet you money though I find that pic on one of those so cute sites
Rza New Member joined: 7/16/2006 posts: 17 msg #67	IP: Logged 4:22:58 AM 7/19/2006
	there is a lisa that is a contact obtainable through that 512-577-2108 number. The number listed (512-577-2108) belongs to a Daisy, when I called she forwarded Lisa's number who was suppose to be selling the misadvertised Jack Russell Terrier. Lisa's actual number is (512-921-3788) Based on the whois search through network solutions the website info is bascially locked and private. Domain Name: MYBULLZ.COM Registrar: TUCOWS INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com Name Server: NS3.MDNSSERVICE.COM Name Server: NS2.MDNSSERVICE.COM Name Server: NS1.MDNSSERVICE.COM Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 11-Oct-2005 Creation Date: 17-Oct-2003 Expiration Date: 17-Oct-2006 I hope the admin's on this site can trace her IP. I'm assuming they log everyone's IP address. I'm contacting my local news about this situation, hopefully they grab and decide on covering it.
Rza New Member joined: 7/16/2006 posts: 18 msg #68	IP: Logged 4:27:51 AM 7/19/2006
	utopia and trauma thank you although i'd love to email you guys I think any and all correspondence can go through here just so everyone can see what's being said and be fully educated, if you'd rather email thats fine, I just want others who have/am/will go through such a surprising situation to have just as much information as I get from you. thanks!
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 563 msg #69	IP: Logged 4:38:36 AM 7/19/2006
	rza, here is the addy of a gal I worked with on Stitch, in the original email. She knew my breeder.....she may know of yours.. Your Puppy Ref 2575 To: racknmare@yahoo.com From: kimtownsend@direcway.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:16:10 -0600 Hi Donna, I don't have info on this breeder because the puppy was not sold on the wholesale level, but I have dealt with this breeder before...it is suspected that the puppies are not bred by Rolando, but bred out of country, in Columbia. I researched another bull terrier, which died of parvo, from this guy. It is sort of like a "ring" of south american puppies....very disturbing and nearly impossible to trace. Kim Townsend
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 564 msg #70	IP: Logged 4:42:44 AM 7/19/2006
	http://www.terrificpets.com/forum/15619.asp my first post here....
Dallasgoldens Senior Member joined: 2/27/2005 posts: 917 msg #71	IP: Logged 7:28:35 AM 7/19/2006
	I ran a rev number search on all the numbers you have listed. They are all cell phones out of austin. I think this maybe her on myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85157526 ***Edited By: dallasgoldens on 7/19/2006 4:07:55 PM*** Reason: add
dltobin Full Member joined: 5/10/2006 posts: 276 msg #72	IP: Logged 9:17:58 AM 7/19/2006
	Wht you got was what my son was getting (info) he is really good at computers and started the hunt for me.....My question is can the MODS put this info on the Scam ALert so this can not happen to any one else here then I really hope you can put the news out there in Texas...I would make her think twice before she sells a pup again. Not everyone is as kind as you and would put the pup through more stress........shipping back and forth BTW loved the video! Dee
Rza New Member joined: 7/16/2006 posts: 19 msg #73	IP: Logged 11:27:10 AM 7/19/2006
	the mods have alot of control over what they CHOOSE to do but unfortunately I haven't even noticed one comment in this specific forum...
SebastianAngelo Junior Member joined: 6/20/2006 posts: 39 msg #74	IP: Logged 11:31:05 AM 7/19/2006
	Breeders, you are going to read this and go off. Please don't. My opinion, and it's not up for discussion. I believe: Selling animals over the Internet should be illegal. There is too much room for cruelty and abuse. Heck, I'm such a nazi, I believe nobody should be allowed to breed dogs and everyone should get a neutered/ spayed dog from the shelter. On the bright side, Jack Russell Terriers are notoriously difficult to train. And, the dog you got has enough wag in his tail to be a wonderul little companion. Call yourself lucky! (I do agree you were scammed, though.)
Rza New Member joined: 7/16/2006 posts: 20 msg #75	IP: Logged 11:45:07 AM 7/19/2006
	the internet has so much room for scams its incredible whats worse is websites like this are aware of it and they don't do much to combat it... there is a level of responsibilty that these sites need to maintain and not just a hope for the best type attitude... if I were in Texas i'd be causing hell for these people, I will do my best to make that happen from here. trauma that email address for Kim is no longer good.
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 565 msg #76	IP: Logged 11:49:26 AM 7/19/2006
	Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donna Chopcinski" View Contact Details View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert Subject: Re: Inquiry about your Ad at TerrificPets.com To: Vinoskye@aol.com Jealousy? Hardly. I am an educated and professional woman. Tell Myra that if she is going to place an ad, to look for a real pic of a jack russell and perhaps one that isnt urinating!??! You should look at the ad you trusted someone else to place for you. Not harassing you at all, dear. If you have nothing to hide, you wont mind hearing from the USDA contact that I send to her! Vinoskye@aol.com wrote: ummm you have the wrong person. i have the jack russell terr. myra has nothing to do with the jack russel terriers she only placed the ad for me. you are sad. you have nothing better to do then go around harrassing people. my jacks are purebred dogs. i do not price them high. they are pets. JEALOUSY is an ugly sickness and you have it bad. Sandy. Aerodynamically the bumblebee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumblebee doesn't know that so it goes on flying anyway." – Mary Kay Ash
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 566 msg #77	IP: Logged 11:57:09 AM 7/19/2006
	for starters.... http://www.petshoppuppies.com/fac.htm and lemme work on finding kim or someone else for you....
Rza New Member joined: 7/16/2006 posts: 21 msg #78	IP: Logged 12:06:49 PM 7/19/2006
	i'ma bit confused as to that email was that lisa or daisy?
TraumaMamma Senior Member joined: 2/15/2005 posts: 567 msg #79	IP: Logged 12:11:04 PM 7/19/2006
	It was to the person who placed the ad here....I responded on terrific pets, just like you probably did, to contact the owner about the puppy. So, when you responded to the ad, who did you get? Her 5th grade typing skills, give her away, I tell you.
irishgirl Full Member joined: 5/18/2006 posts: 349 msg #80	IP: Logged 12:24:02 PM 7/19/2006
	~On the bright side, Jack Russell Terriers are notoriously difficult to train. And, the dog you got has enough wag in his tail to be a wonderul little companion~ ~SebastianAngelo~ Hello there... :) I am a JRT owner myself and take offense to your above para. To make such a statement about a breed of dog is a bit narrow minded. JRT's may be stubborn at heart but they're eager and willing to learn. They're also notoriously known for being very smart. As any dog owner knows... the training results will only be as good as what the owner puts into it. ***Edited By: irishgirl on 7/19/2006 12:37:46 PM*** Reason: correction

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